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Swinging: A Relationship Spice

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Two couples about to swap partners. Credit: thelostogle.com

Let’s talk about keeping a relationship alive.

I covered some of my favorite tips  in my article, “Keeping A Relationship Alive,” and “The 7 Rings of Desire,” but I wanna take all that a step further.

You only need two glues to keep a relationship together: communication and sex.

If there’s no communication, there’s isolation, and that’s the opposite of relation…ship. It’s a relation…shit. (Bah-boo-boo-ching. I’ll be here all night.)

And once the sex goes, what’ve you got left, but mere friendship?

Now, here’s the problem.

When it comes to having sex in a long-term relationship… We get into our little routines. We do the same moves over and over. We have sex in the same place time after time. After a while it gets boring. And you’re like, “sex again? Ugh.” Then you go whack it to some porn.

That’ll do wonders for your relationship. Not.

What’s the solution? Variety. If the problem is doing the same thing over and over, then the solution is to shake things up a little, right? Of course it is.

Well, what kind of stuff can I throw in there for variety’s sake?

You sure you wanna ask me that? Okay, bro. You asked for it. Here’s a quick list for starters:

  • Dirty talk
  • Dirty texts
  • Role Play
  • Getting her to pose for pics
  • Using the Remote Control Egg while out in Public
  • Spanking
  • Constraints
  • Sex toys
  • Hypnosis
  • Watch Porn Together
  • Entice, then Deny
  • Deeply Intimate Sex
  • Threesomes
  • Swinging

Swinging? Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Before you get too crazy about the idea, let me just explain, all right?

WHY SWINGING

It used to be  monogamy was the “gold standard” of a loving relationship. It used to be that “opening the relationship” to other people would destroy the relationship. It used to be saying “I think we should see others” was code for let’s breakup.

Not anymore.

You’d be surprised how many happily committed couples swing. You’d be surprised at how not only does it NOT destroy their relationship, but it often brings them closer together.

‘Cause it takes trust. ‘Cause you go on an adventure TOGETHER. ‘Cause you learn to appreciate what you have even more.

But here’s the coolest part: you get to bring out your woman’s inner-slut.

Mm-hm. Oh, hell yeah.

Now by “slut” I don’t mean a woman who sleeps around.

I mean a woman who’s sexually uninhibited, adventurous, expressive, animalistic. EVERY woman has that sexual beast in them. It’s just that women don’t always get to bring her out to play too often.

Well, by leading her into new territories of sexual experience, you can help your woman awaken the full potential of her sexuality. And she’ll love you even MORE for it.

Nice, right?

So, let’s take a peek at swinging. As a way of keeping your relationship alive, and awakening your woman’s sexuality.

First, I’ll look inside the Swinger’s community. Then I’ll give you some tips in how to introduce your woman to it. Finally, I’ll give you a few quick etiquette tips during the whole swinging experience.

Sound good?

THE SWINGER COMMUNITY

First things first. The goal is not to gratify your own selfish desires. If you’re gonna swing, do it as something you and your girl do TOGETHER. Your goal is to enhance your relationship.

Okay with that important disclaimer out of the way, let’s get into the good stuff.

You’ll find most swingers are in their 30s and 40s. Yes, you’ll find swingers in their 20s, 50, 60s, too. But a lot of them are in that 30s-40s range. Most couples are married, with the guy being straight and the girl being bi, but you’ll find all sorts of variations.

There are three basic ways to meet other couples who swing: dances, on-premises clubs, or online ads. Let’s look at each.

1. The Dances

Swinger dances are filled with open bisexual behavior. Yet they consist entirely of couples. Here’s something else that’s funny. Every one of these dances admit single women, but very few allow single men. Isn’t that funny? It’s probably for good reason because check out what the dances are like…

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This took place in “The Legacy Club,” a swinger’s club in Orlando. Swinger’s clubs are filled with open sexual behavior, including between hot bisexual women. Sweet! Credit: lustwave.com

At these dances you’ll find two women going down on each other in a corner or women sucking another woman’s tits on the dance floor. Mwah-ha-ha (my evil laugh).

Some dances are held in the ballroom of a hotel so couples can reserve a hotel room that night.

Okay, so much for the dances. Here are what the on-premise clubs are like.

2. The On-Premise Clubs

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I took this from “The Sugar House,” a swinger’s club in Denver, Colorado. Credit: sugarhousedenver.com

You’ll find rooms with one bed that have a door that locks. Oooor, rooms with many beds with no locks on the door. In other words, you’ll find private rooms or public rooms.

Why do they have bedrooms at the clubs?

Tee-hee. So, after you meet a couple you like, you can get down to business right there and then. Hahaha!

Can you imagine if all clubs had bedrooms in them for that reason? Wouldn’t that be glorious? Well these clubs do, which is just cool.

Anywho. There are two types of swaps: “full swap” and “soft swap.” Full swap is when couples have intercourse with each other’s spouses. Soft swap is when couples do everything with each other’s spouses except intercourse.

The cool thing about either one these clubs or dances is you don’t have to seduce the other woman. All you have to do is be cool, fun, and relatively attractive. You don’t really need game. All you have to do is eliminate the couples who are there only for a soft swap (if what you’re after is the full swap, of course).

The downside to this no-need-for-game is swingers can be superficial. Couples often choose each for how physically attractive you and your girl are. It’s not based on emotional connection or personal qualities.

And it’s the girls who tend to be the picky ones. The guys usually go along with whatever.

Okay, you’re probably wondering by now, “How do you find these dances and clubs?”

Just put in a search the on web for dances and clubs in your area. Go to them. Meet the people there. As they get to know you, they’ll invite you to large, unadvertised dances or parties where beautiful swingers go.

You’re in.

3. Online Ads

Finally, you can search online ads like this www.swinger-nation.ie for other couples who swing.

All you do here is exchange pictures and emails with another couple. You then agree to meet up at a local bar for drinks. You spend maybe a half hour or so talking. That’s all you need before it’s time to get down to business.

Kinda cool as to how there’s no need for games and stuff like that, right? Swingers are very okay with sex already, they want it, it’s already on the table, so there’s no need to pretend and beat around the bush.

Cool, fine, whatever. But HOW do you get your girl to swing?

Ah, the million-dollar question. Let’s talk about that now. That last one would take a whole other article itself to breakdown.

HOW TO GET YOUR GIRL TO SWING

From David Shade, I learned there are three ways to do it. One of them is advanced. Here they are:

1) Tell her three fantasy-stories. Make one about swinging, and see how she responds.

2) Just tell her you’re going to take her to a swinger’s dance.

3) Have a threesome with your girl first, then take her to a Swinger’s dance.

Let’s just focus on the first two.

1. Tell her three fantasy stories

It’s night, you’re in bed with your girl, you kiss her up, get her in the mood. You don’t stick it in yet, though. Stop and tell her it’s “Story-Time”:

You: “Hey baby, I’ve written three fantasies for you. I wanna read them to you.”

Her: “Okay!”

Read the fantasies aloud to her, if you’ve written them out ahead of time. I means wou don’t have to write them out ahead of time, if you don’t want. You can just tell her three fantasies.

Make the FIRST FANTASY about something you know already excites her. Maybe it involves a movie star she likes. Maybe it involves getting massaged and given a bath before sex. Maybe it involves getting ravished by a shadowy stranger in an alleyway. Whatever. Just make it about something she’s already excited about. And feel free to use hypothetical people.

Make the SECOND FANTASY about a threesome. Again, feel free to use hypothetical people. But whatever you do, make sure to set the fantasy up like it’s a story.

It’s funny because when you compare romance novels and female erotica with porn, you’ll see in “female porn” there’s an actual story with characters. In other words, they don’t go straight to the sex. The sex scenes are built up to, with a story.

So, follow suit. In your fantasy, set up the threesome with characters. Tell a  story about how a threesome would happen. Describe the threesome in a way that would excite the hell out of her with the forbidden, with resistance, with anticipation. What I’m trying to say is don’t make it just about the deed, include lots of buildup.

If you’re drawing a blank on stories to tell her, here’re some books I refer to for ideas:

  • “My Secret Garden” by Nancy Friday
  • “Private Thoughts” by Wendy Maltz and Suzie Boss
  • “To Turn You On” by J. Aphrodite.

Hell, you could probably ready one of these fantasies for her. There are threesome stories in there. Reading one of those would do the trick, too.

If you don’t want to buy one of those books (I’d highly recommend you invest in one because it goes a long way in helping a guys understand how to turn women on), you could even put a search on the web for “female fantasies.” There’s plenty out there for free. Here’s a great resource right here.

Make the THIRD FANTASY about a man who brings home another man to help him double penetrate his girl.

After you’ve read/told her the three fantasies, polish the night off with some AWESOME sex.

At a later time (could be that night or the next day), ask her what she thought of the three fantasies. When she mentions the   double penetration one, tell her:

“I think that would be exciting in the context of a secure relationship. There would be no jealousy. It would be about giving you amazing pleasure and making the relationship even more exciting.”

You’ve planted the seed.

On another night, do ANOTHER “Story-Time.” Tell her THESE three fantasies:

The FIRST about a threesome, the SECOND about double penetration, the THIRD about spouse-swapping.  And, of course, polish off the night with great sex.

Discuss the fantasies that night or the next day. When she mentions the spouse-swapping one, talk about how that would be exciting within the context of a secure relationship, too. Especially if it’s done as something that would bring the two of you closer together. Emphasize that. That’s it’d be something that would bring a couple closer together.

When she agrees, put in a search on the web for swinger dances clubs in your area, or search online ads. Then tell her you’re going to take her to a swinger’s club or meet a couple.

Yes, you might get objections. I’ll talk about that under the next option.

2. Just tell her you’re going to take her to a Swinger’s Dance

The second option is a little more direct.

Search swinger clubs or online ads in your area. Find something you like. Then say to her:

“Hey, I’m taking you to a swinger’s night this Saturday night. It’ll be awesome. We’ll just watch for a little bit. And you can decide if you want to stay longer.”

Bam, done.

Well, maybe not quite done. She’ll probably bring up some objections like: the people in the community are unattractive and skanky. Or, it might destroy the relationship.

As for the first concern, there are MANY attractive people in the swinger community. And lots of hot, bisexual women. That right there will probably be the biggest draw for a woman.

How?

Because about one-third of women admit they’re bisexual, one-third are secretly open to the idea, and one-third would try it but they have a dogmatic social stigma against it. Women simply find other women attractive. This might be her chance she’s always wanted to try.

As for the second objection, make sure she understands it will be done in the context of a secure relationship. It’s meant to be done TOGETHER. It’s to meant to add enjoyment to your already wonderful sex life, and to bring you two other closer together. No jealousy. She’s always #1. And if it any time she feels uncomfortable, let her know you’ll stop.

For example, the dialogue might look something like this (credit goes to David Shade in  “Bring Out Her Inner Slut”):

You: “This Saturday I’m taking you to a Swinger’s club.”

Her: “What? Why?”

You: “I’ve always been curious about the swinger community, and I want to learn about it. We’ll watch and you decide if you wanna stay longer or not.”

Her: “Why do you want to learn about swingers?”

You: “I’m curious about why they swing.”

Her: “They’re probably all swanky.”

You: “From what I’ve heard, many of them are attractive. And all the women are bisexual.”

Her: “So you want us to get into swinging?”

You: “I’m not saying I want us to get into swinging. I’m just curious about the community, and want to learn about it.”

Her: “Are you not happy with me?”

You: “Of course I’m happy with you. I love you. I love having sex with you, and you’re the most beautiful woman in the world to me. But you know me. I’m also always looking for ways to enhance our relationship. It’s just an experiment. It”ll only be for us and to bring us closer together. You’re always number one. And if at any point you don’t like it, we’ll stop.”

Her: “If we do this, I don’t want you kissing another woman on the mouth.”

You: “Fair.”

Her: “Okay. Fine. I’ll try it just once…”

I’ve gotta tell you… Don’t be surprised if she becomes VERY enthusiastic about it. Haha

Okay, once your girl’s ready to rock n roll, let me give you a few etiquette tips once it’s time to get down to business…

SOME ETIQUETTE TIPS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO SWING

1. Before The Deed:

  • BE GROOMED. The better looking you and your girl are, the more couples will be interested in you. How can we guys become more attractive? We can bump ourselves up on the attractiveness scale (let’s say from a “5” to a “7”) just by being groomed. That means no stragglers hanging from the nose. Showered. Shaved. Dressed well. Smelling good.
  • BE COOL. You don’t have to seduce the other woman. And DEFINITELY don’t be pushy. Just be cool. What do I mean by that? Have social graces. By “social graces” I mean you make eye contact (shows honesty), you listen and ask about them (don’t hog the conversation), you’re fun, playful (see my article “Flirting” for more on this), and you’ve got interesting things to talk about (even though this article about conversation is on pickup, it covers basics of good conversation… talking in terms of them). Just be likable, fun, “normal.” You’re in.
  • BE THE GUY’S BEST BUDDY. You’re going to be fucking his wife. He’s gotta be able to trust you. So, show him respect. And bond with him.

2. During The Deed:

  • TAKE THE LEAD. When it comes time to do the deed, people get hesitant. Who will make the first move? I’ll tell you, women don’t like to. And the other guy might not know how. So, take the lead. How? First, instruct the girls to kiss. After they’ve done that for a while, instruct them to strip and eat each other out. Sit back and enjoy the show with the guy. Soon, the girls will be ready for cock and will want you guys to join in. WARNING: Just because they’re swingers doesn’t meant they’re the world’s greatest lovers. All the more reason to take the lead.
  • MAKE YOUR GIRL #1. Include your woman in everything you do. If she’s ever feeling uncomfortable, stop. It’s not about getting your rocks off. It’s about enhancing your relationship with her. If you’ve set rules ahead of time (maybe she doesn’t want you to come in the other woman), make sure you abide by them. Always make sure she’s cool, first.

3. After the Deed:

  • NO CUDDLING WITH THE OTHER WOMAN. This goes with “Make Your Girl #1.” No cuddling or emotional bonding with the other woman. That will cause jealousy. Swap wives, tell the couple it was nice meeting them afterward, maybe even talk for a few minutes. Then leave. No emotional drama. The lack of clinginess and emotional drama is actually a breath of fresh air.

CONCLUSION

If you’re gonna swing, remember these three important points:

  • Women are highly sexual and this can bring her sexuality out even more.
  • Take the lead.
  • It’s about enhancing your relationship and expanding her sexual experience.

Swinging is a shit-load of fun. It can truly bring you two closer together. It will definitely add variety and spice to your sex life. And it can bring out the love and appreciation you two have for each other even more.

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Swinging couples enjoying some time together. Credit: momlogic.com

 
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Posted by on January 1, 2014 in Home, Monoamory, Polyamory

 

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How to Date Multiple Women

Let’s say you’re getting REALLY great with women. You’ve been going out four times a week for the last eight months, you’ve been keeping track of your approaches, and girls are starting to respond BEAUTIFULLY. They’re laughing, you’re the most interesting guy in the room, and you’re making them chase.

Guess what? You’re going to have a whole new problem on your hands. More than one girl is going to want sex from you.

I know, I know. This is a problem? Haha Well, it’s a QUALITY problem.

For example, let me ask you this question. Is it okay to sleep with more than one woman at the same time?

Hell, yeah.

You object you say? Well, check out my take on the whole subject.

As long as a girl knows you’ve got other women in your life, and she’s okay with that, I see absolutely nothing wrong with sleeping with multiple women at the same time.

I’ll say it again. As long as you’re HONEST about the fact that you sleep with other women and she agrees to that condition, how are you being dishonest or unethical about sleeping with other women?

And this goes without saying, but use protection. Of course.

Here’s the other side to this. If you tell a woman you’re going to be faithful to her and you both agree to these terms, then be faithful. Break up with her before you cheat on her.

But if you’re single, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with seeing multiple women. In fact, it can be a good thing.

I mean, would you buy the first shirt you try on in a store, or would you try on different ones to see which fit best? So, how are you supposed to find a woman who’s right for you if you get into a monogamous relationship with the first woman you sleep with?

Now, the big question is this. HOW do you be honest with a woman that you’re sleeping with other women in a way that doesn’t turn her off?

Excellent question.

And let me just say right here that… not every girl is gonna love the idea. That’s okay. But you’ll be surprised how many girls will be totally okay with it. To make her feel comfortable with it, there’s definitely a right way and a wrong way to go about it.

Believe me, I’ve done the wrong way many times. So, learn from my mistakes. I’m gonna give you six steps to follow. By the way, I learned these from Brad P and Joshua Pellicier, and have field tested them myself. They work.

STEP #1. SOW THE SEED.

Sow the seed in the first ten to fifteen minutes of meeting her. You’ve got a few ways to do this.

Option #1: Banter. Joke about how you’ve got a lot of girlfriends. Or if she’s grabbing at you, tell her to take a number. Or if she says something you like, tell her you’re going to make her your Tuesday girlfriend and if she’s good, you’ll make her your Friday girlfriend (where the real fun is). Come up with your own stuff if you’d like. But play the role of a guy who’s got lots of girls in his life.

She’ll get the message on a subconscious level. Like the old adage goes, jokes have a kernel of truth.

Option #2: Tell stories. You can tell stories about how you’re from out of town, or you can tell an embarrassing story about how you’ve got girls fighting over you (see “Wrong Number” story under the “Funny Stories” section of  “My Routines Collection” for an example).

Option #3. Tell her you’re polyamorous. (credit: Joshua Pellicier) This is probably the best way to go, because it’s the most upfront. No gray areas here. Here’s an example of how that exchange might go:

  • You: “How did your last relationship end?”
  • She: “Oh, he was jealous. It ended. Whatever.”
  • You: “I don’t have that problem anymore because I changed something about the way I’m in relationships now. But yeah… I remember what that was like and it completely sucks!”
  • She: Talks about jealousy, fear, lying, apathy, or selfishness.
  • You: “You know that doesn’t happen in a polyamorous relationship. Have you ever considered just being polyamorous with guys that make you feel that way?”
  • She: “What is polyamory?”
  • You: “Poly means many and amor means love, so polyamory means lots of loves. I have many girlfriends at the same time. They’re free to date who they want, too. And if a girl’s not comfortable with it, I don’t date her. But they all know about each other ahead of time.”

If she’s not cool with it, then you don’t date her.

STEP #2. ANSWER OBJECTIONS.

Here’s some objections you might get and how to handle them. Again, credit goes to Joshua Pellicer for this.

Objection #1: “I could never do that.”

Response: “Hey, it’s not for everyone. But if you ever meet a guy who’s good at it, I highly suggest you try it out. It’s an amazing experience because there’s no relationship drama. A lot of the girls who are dating me are doing it for the first time, and love it. Not a lot of guys know how to do it right, but if you ever run into another one, try it out. It’s fun.”

She: “Okay, yeah, I’ll try that out”

Objection #2: “Are you sleeping with all of them?”

Response: “Well, yeah, most of them. I mean I’m not going to deprive them of sex. But we also have a 100% protection rule. We always use protection. But, yeah, I’m sleeping with most of them.”

Objection #3: “What kind of girl would actually do that?”

Response: “Girls like you that are confident. They’re trying it out for the first time, and are completely comfortable with it.”

Objection #4: “Do they all know about each other?”

Response: “Absolutely. If she’s not comfortable with it, then I don’t date her. I don’t sleep with her, nothing.”

Objection #5: “So you’re cheating then?”

Response: “No. All the girls all know about each other. And they’re all cool with it. You can’t cheat. Everyone is open about seeing other people, so there’s no cheating.”

Objection #6: “So you never want to get married?”

Response: “I definitely do. I’m in a dating phase of my life. But someday I hope I get married. And someday they’ll probably get married and I hope that for them. They’ll leave and that’s okay.”

Objection #7: “What kind of girls are these girls?”

Response: “They’re from all walks of life. There’s a girl who’s from Thailand. There’s a girl who’s studying to become a CNA. There’s a girl who’s a waitress. There’s a girl who’s a real estate agent. There’s a girl who works in a bookstore. There’s a girl who’s a stripper, a hippie, and a teacher. ”

If you don’t have any girlfriends, you can say: “I’m not sleeping with all of them”… and “The girls I’ve dated in the past are from all walks of life.”

STEP 3. ESCALATE QUICKLY. Escalate physically quickly, touching often. Act the role of a seducer, not someone who’s courting her.

But when you escalate, remember to push her away, too. This creates sexual tension. Pull her in and push her away. Logic goes out the door for her. All that’s on her mind is… yum.

STEP 4. REINFORCEMENT.

This step is all-important. Women will believe your actions more than your words. If you say you don’t want a relationship, but then ACT like you’re in a relationship, she’s not going to believe your words. More important than talking about it is ACTING it.

What does that mean?

  • Don’t buy her dinners or do other “courting” behaviors before you sleep with her.
  • Don’t sleep with her more than twice a week.
  • Don’t call her more than twice a week.
  • Don’t email her more than four times a week.

These are guidelines I’ve picked up from Brad P that I’ve been found to be solid.

The more often you see a woman in a week, the more she’ll think she’s your girlfriend even if you say you don’t want one. But the less contact you have with her in a week, the more she’ll believe your words.

Here’s four other reinforcement techniques you can use that I picked up from Pellicier.

#1. Ask her opinion of other girls: “What do you think about that girl?”

#2. Fish for jealousy: “That girl is hot.” If she get jealous, bad sign. She won’t be okay with you sleeping with other girls.

#3. Don’t be available: “Hey, I won’t be available to hang out until Thursday.” If she ever asks you to cancel plans, reinforce polyamory: “Remember this is a polyamorous relationship. I’m still here for you, but on my own terms.” If that doesn’t work, run. You’ve got a jealous girl on your hands.

#4. Don’t build rapport too fast: Get things sexual fast. THEN build rapport. Too much rapport before sex can lead to hurt feelings, confusion or anger. Keep the emotional connection mellow, until later.

STEP 5. SEX.

Give her an amazing sexual experience. Give her orgasms. And she’ll keep coming back for more.

And it’s courteous to sleep with her at least twice. It shows you cared about her experience.

STEP SIX. AFTER SEX.

It’s okay to cuddle and connect with her. But connect like a friend, not a boyfriend. Keep things light with some fun banter, or go into normal conversation or light rapport, not the deep rapport.

DON’T make any plans with her. She can tell you about her problems, ask advice, share what’s going on in her life… but if she starts to talk future stuff, cut it off. Reinforce this relationship is polyamorous.

If you can, let her stay. Have breakfast. If she needs a ride, give her one.

But once she leaves, keep up the search. Don’t get too attached to one person, unless you want a monogamous relationship.

Okay, so those are the six steps.

Pick a way to sow the seed from Step #1 and incorporate it into your stack. Next time you go out, sow the seed within ten minutes. Believe in your bones you’re a catch. Act the part of a man women want. She’ll believe it on an emotional level and she’ll feel attraction. Acting the part of a man with an abundance of women in his life happens to also be THE critical piece to attracting women.

Every man should go through this experience. It raises your confidence and I’ve personally learned so much about myself and about women going through it. Also, when you do find that one good woman, it makes monogamy that much sweeter.

Just remember, when you do go through this, do it in a way that always leaves a woman better off than when you first met her.

 
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Posted by on November 10, 2012 in Home, Polyamory

 

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