Whet Your Woman

Pickup Product Review

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There’s a lot of stuff out there on how to be more successful with women. Where do you begin? I’ve gone through a lot of it, and not all of it is created equal. Here’s my personal list of what I think is the best, what’s okay, and what I liked the least. There’s nothing objective about this. It’s pure opinion.

::: Table of Contents :::

Part I. The Absolute Best

Part II. Okay

Part III. My Least Favorite

Part IV. Haven’t Tried, But No Interest

Conclusion: Where to Start

PART I: THE ABSOLUTE BEST

::: Introduction :::

I choose these as the best because they have at least two of the three following things:

a) They Produce Results: They’re PRACTICAL. They actually helped me to change.

b) They’re Original: They practice what they preach. They’re leaders. And, they helped me to see the big picture.

c) They’re Affordable: It doesn’t break your wallet to get one of their products.

::: Division 1: The Best From The Pickup Community :::

1. DAVID DEIDA.

He’s not part of the pickup community. But his ideas were the ones that helped me to succeed with women the most.

2. MYSTERY.

Most pickup gurus started out as students of Mystery. He’s practical, and he gives you the big picture. Only problem with his books are they’re written by Lovedrop, not Mystery. They’re Mystery’s ideas of course, and they are still revolutionary.

3. NEIL STRAUSS.

If Mystery is Socrates, Neil is Plato. Mystery is the great teacher who never bothered to write anything down. Neil is the great student who wrote everything down, made Mystery famous, and spread his message. And his writing is a pleasure to read.

4. DAVID DEANGELO.

Focuses on the “attract” phase and inner-game stuff. Great on fundamentals. Although cocky-funny is a practical technique, he’s heavy on theory and teaches through lecture.

5. LANCE MASON.

His products were the ones out of all the rest that changed my game for the better. HANDS DOWN. He brought all the theory I had absorbed into HARD practice. Only drawback: his courses are VERY expensive. $797 – $897 a pop. He offers payment plans, though. But still.

6. BRAD P.

One of the few that wasn’t a student of Mystery. An original. Practices what he preaches. His ideas of social freedom is a revelation.

7. ROSS JEFFRIES.

If Mystery is the father, Ross is the grandfather. Important insights into capturing and leading a woman’s emotions through language.

8. DAVID SHADE.

His ideas of “be the man,” take the lead, be Dominant in the bedroom. They apply to the pickup, too. Also, if you end up successfully picking up a woman, you’ve gotta have a sense of what to do with her once you’ve got her in bed. One of his important insights is your most important tool in the bedroom isn’t your tool, it’s your voice.

9. ALEX ALLMAN.

He emphasizes building sexual trust with women, listening, and communicating. His programs tend to be more on the spiritual side than David Shade’s (David Shade emphasizes more NLP). But Alex still stays practical and gives excellent techniques, from the basics like giving her a clitoral orgasm, to the advanced stuff like stacking orgasms and you having non-ejaculatory orgasms. He’s the real deal.

::: Division 2: The Best From The Mainstream :::

1. INNER-GAME

2. MASCULINITY

3. SUCCESS WITH WOMEN

4. FEMALE PERSPECTIVE

5. SEX

6. Outside Pickup, But Related: Health, Wealth, Fashion, How To Be Funny

FASHION

HOW TO BE FUNNY

HEALTH

WEALTH

PART II: GOOD

::: Introduction :::

The reason these people are B Level is for one of three reasons:

a) Heavy on theory, light on practical stuff. You’ll get stuck in your head.

b) They’re basically a rip off of Mystery or Ross Jeffries. Why not go to the original source, the TEACHERS of these guys who will actually get you results?

c) Waaaaaaay too expensive.

::: Division 1: Solid :::

These are a little better than the rest in this category because they give you stuff that can actually help you get results.

1. Vin Di Carlo

He has other great stuff. He dubs himself as all about Natural Game, but in reality he’s HEAVY into theory. He was a student of Mystery under the handle “Woodhaven” but distinguished himself when he rebelled against scripts. I’ve learned much from him, and recommend him. I also learned from him that you can have a woman drive to YOUR place and having a woman help you with your passion can increase her attraction in you because she’s investing in you. I also respect the fact he invented EXERCISES to help you with pickup. He tries hard to get pickup out of mere theory. In the end, he is theoretical, and he’s a student of Mystery’s.

2. Richard La Ruina, a.k.a Gambler

He reminds me of Vin Di Carlo. He’s from the U.K. He also dubs himself as all about Natural Game, but is HEAVY into theory, too. He also started as a student of Mystery. He’s great on the fundamentals. I learned much from him about body language, and conversation. But he’s heavy into lecture as that’s style of teaching. Kezia,

Kezia Noble

SUPER-hot woman who puts out pickup info for guys, had her start as one of his instructors.

3. Stephane Hemon

I enjoy his spiritual insights into success with women. Verges on New Age though. But his results show he’s the real deal.

4. Nick Sparks

I’ve learned a lot from him, but mostly from just watching him in action. Here’s a couple of links so you can see what I’m talking about. Here, Sparks demo’s his method of physical escalation. And here, Sparks demo’s talking with a cute girl and flirting.

5. Daniel Rose

6. Jason Julius

7. Joshua Pellicier

8. Marni Wing

She’s best one-on-one with you. I watched one of her videos, and what I remember from it is the word “proactive.” I think that was one of the qualities she said women thought were attractive in a man. I also had phone conversation with her once. I was amazed how quickly she honed in on my sticking point, which helped me become more aware of it. I also had some email correspondence with her, and she was great at giving you the female perspective. I learned more from those one-on-one sessions than the video I watched. She’s got integrity, she gives you value, and she’s VERY insightful.

9. Mirabelle Summers

I read a miniature ebook by her called How to Become a Sexual Dynamo. Holy shit. I learned SO MUCH about how to be better in bed and the female perspective from this. I even wrote a post based it called The Five Principles of Female Pleasure. That little ebook? HIGHLY recommended.

10. Ellen Eatough

I listened to Alex Allman interview her. She had great insights about how foreplay is something that happens all day, not just before sex. Her newsletters come from a spiritual perspective. I’ve learned much from her.

11. 2 Girls Teach Sex

Basically this is just girl-on-girl porn, with some instruction tacked on. The instruction isn’t anything insightful. It’s just a rip-off of Daniel Roses’ 4 principles, but with different names. The value of these DVDs definitely isn’t in the instruction, which is B-level, but in actually watching the women have sex with each other. Yeah, I get turned on watching it, but I picked up a few tips along the way, too. Haha

::: Division 2: Decent :::

12. John Alanis

His insight into success with women: have a sense of “authority.” I thought this was very original, and insightful. Besides that, I don’t know a lot about him. He seems like a good marketer, but I’m not sure if his content delivers or not.

13. Badboy

He’s awesome because he’s so raw and direct. He has a limp, and he’s from Europe (Croatia I believe). One of the originals from The Game. But his company seems a little disorganized.

14. Stylelife

Regurgitation of Mystery

15. Mehow

Regurgitation of Mystery. His “Get The Girl” ebook is solid Mystery Method fundamentals. But still a regurgitation.

16. Gabrielle Moore

“The Female Orgasm Revealed” book was awesome. My big takeaway from that book was to get a woman as close as you can to climax before you enter her, then when you enter her, her orgasm is right around the corner. “Turn Her On Faster” was a massive waste of money.

17. Scott McCay

I’ve listened to interviews with him. A lot of stuff on being a good guy. He’s okay. Nothing to write home about.

18. Alex Coulson

Okay. Regurgitation of Mystery. His idea of showing actual pickup scenes and breaking them down is great, though. The info seems solid, and he seems like he actually has game.

::: Division 3: Good Rep, But What’s The Big Deal? :::

1. Hypnotica

I know David DeAngelo was friends with him and DeAngelo said he learned much from him. I know Neil Strauss said this man and Steve P gave him his graduate course in pickup. I know this, so I made an extra effort to give this guy a chance. Over and over. But to me he just rambles. I listen for coherence, or at least content, and it’s a challenge. The closest thing to content or coherence I find is half-baked regurgitation of David Deida, NLP, and The Secret. I’m sure he’s AWESOME with women. And maybe you have to be there in person with him doing one of his hypnosis sessions to get the real benefit. But just from what I’ve seen of him, I don’t see it.

2. Steve P

This is Hypnotica’s partner in crime. They often teach seminars together. When he speaks, I listen. He’s more coherent than Hypnotica. HOWEVER… I RUSHED to get his White Tiger Tantra DVD set as soon as it came out. It was a disappointment. I went through it twice. I wanted to like it. 5 DVDs, and I got more out of the only DVD in the set that Steve P wasn’t on. That DVD went over the fundamentals of massage, and I learned from that. Steve P does the voiceover, but he doesn’t demo in this particular DVD, yet I liked the DVD he wasn’t on best. Why? Why were the other DVDs not as good? The DVD  I liked was clear in its communication and took you step by step through the basics of massage. The other DVDs looked like they were shot on the fly with explanations thrown in as an after thought. What put the nail in the coffin for my opinion of Steve P in general was in an email Steve P sent out to his list. He asked for this inordinate amount of money, something like $100,000, just to learn from him. He just lost me after that. But from the few recorded seminars I heard him speak at, the man definitely has some great insights.

3. Brent Smith

I once subscribed to his newsletters because David DeAngelo said he learned from this guy. I got little out of them. I’m sure he’s great with woman, but just saying “be indifferent” doesn’t really help.

4. Carlos Xuma

I also tried to give this guy a chance. He’s got a stellar reputation. But really long newsletters. A lot of fluff. Wasn’t learning anything new. And listening to him talk… yowzers. His voice is so nasally, it’s hard for me to listen. I respect the fact that he runs an upstanding business. He’s insightful. But nothing was standing out to me. And his voice was so nasally. Oh, did I say that already?

::: Division 4: Ross Jeffries Regurgitation (NLP Stuff) :::

1. Tony Clink – The Plan: Have Sex Tonight With A Gorgeous Woman in 69 Easy Steps was simply a regurgitation of Ross Jeffries. It’s all about how to pickup women using NLP. Shrug.

2. John Cliff – Master Seducer’s Handbook is all about using NLP to pickup women. What’s great about the book are the exercises he provides, especially in part one (the book has three parts total). I also like that he actually shows you the how-to and the theory behind using NLP with seduction. He does this better than Ross Jeffries’ Speed Seduction product I have. So, respect. But still, it’s NLP. It’s been done by Ross Jeffries already.

PART III. MY LEAST FAVORITE

These aren’t bad guys. In a lot of cases, they’re doing great things. I just had VERY mediocre experiences either dealing with their products, or with their customer service.

1. Rion Williams

His idea is brilliant. His writing sucks. Probably the most painful writing I’ve ever read in my life. It was as if he barfed on the page and then decided to sell it for $50 because his idea is half-way original. His marketing writing convinced me to buy the book, which is good. But what pissed me off was in his marketing he talked about how he was so different from every pua in the community. When I read the book he basically says the exact same thing that the pua community talks about. I felt bull-shitted. His original idea? Women’s beauty is a social construction. Therefore, talk to her like a human being rather than a hot “object.” That’s basically the pua idea. But rock on for pointing out a woman’s beauty is just a social construction. I was hoping he’d expand on this fantastic idea, and learn more. No. He’d just restate that sentence over and over. FANTASTIC insight, but unless he takes the time to edit the book or expand on his idea, save your $50.

2. Swinggcat

3. David Wygant

I’ve listened to him in interviews, and read a few of his newsletters. He comes off as a pompous prick to me. Makes it hard to listen to him.

4. Christian Hudson

I’m sure he’s great. Really. But I had watched a video of him lecturing at the 21 Convention, and a video of him interviewing someone. In the interview he’d get all pissy with his business partner Nick Sparks when Nick was just trying to have a little fun. So, he annoys me.

5. Authentic Man Project

Holy New Age Men Batman. Most of their ideas seem to be a pale imitation of David Deida. I test-drove one of their products: a CD, DVD, and manual. I felt like I needed a shower afterwards.

6. Adam Gilad

Way too New Age for me. He also seems to regurgitate David Deida. He’s a writer, though, and he’s got some great insights into writing a good online profile for yourself. Outside of that, whatever.

7. Love Systems

I bought Routines Manual and Magic Bullets. Both sucked. And way overpriced. The company once called me, don’t know why, probably to sell me something. Anyway, I told them how I felt gypped by their product. They were like “whatever” and hung up on me. Awesome. Maybe I had come across as a little frustrated for spending so much and getting so little in return, and this particular guy didn’t want to hear it. Ever since, zero interest in this company. Besides, they’re a rip off of Mystery. In fact, the company was called “Mystery Method” until Mystery left them. And the new name of their business? Why would you pair such an impersonal, factory-sounding word “systems” with such a personal word such as “love”? Pass.

PART IV: HAVEN’T TRIED, BUT HAVE NO INTEREST

1. Real Social Dynamics

Tyler Durden is a guest speaker in a lot of David DeAngelo’s products, and I’ve gone through a number of them, as you can tell. David DeAngelo would basically suck Tyler’s dick in his introductions, but after listening to Tyler speak (this was before I had even made the connection that this was the same Tyler from The Game) I couldn’t figure out why David D made such a fuss about him. I thought his voice sounded like Mickey Mouse. And he’d just ramble. I did come across a later video of him in his own seminar, and I thought he kicked ass in that talk. Anyway, his big contribution to the community is AMOG techniques (Alpha Male Of the Group). Who gives a shit? I wanna be more successful with women, not out “alpha” guys. I’ve heard his Blueprint product is good, though. But I also heard his product is like Eckard Tolle. That makes me not to want to look at his products even more. On top of that his portrayal in The Game is a turn off. He gets a lot of good reviews, and I’m sure they’re warranted, but personally I just don’t have any interest. Again, I’m sure he’s solid. But he learned everything from Mystery (and David DeAngelo), so why not just go directly to his teachers?

CONCLUSION: WHERE TO START

I’d start with an overview:

  1. Double Your Dating ebook, David DeAngelo – Great overview on attraction. (Later down the line, Sexual Communication is great. Expands on how to create attraction. And Mastery with Women & Dating is FANTASTIC for inner-game stuff.)
  2. The Game, Neil Strauss – Inspires you for what’s possible with women.
  3. Mystery Method, Mystery – The theory and big picture behind that possibility. Watch VH-1 Pickup Artist on Amazon if you want to see the theory in action.

Next, PRACTICE. These products will help you do just that.

  1. Rules of the Game, Neil Strauss – forces you to get out into the field… but only for 30 days
  2. Charismatic Conversations, Lance Mason – THE BEST to help you get success. This product emphasizes the attract stage. Later on, I’d recommend Zero Drama Dating & 60 Minute Seductions for seduction and dating multiple women.
  3. 30/30 Club, Brad P – picks up where Rules of The Game left off. It will take you to mastery level. Forces you to make 30 approaches per month for 1 year. Online coaches to help you along the way. You get every one of his products, including his fashion stuff.

While you’re out practicing, especially with the help of the 30/30 Club, you’ll have time to work on your sexual skills and inner-game. In my opinion, these are some of the best products to help you do just that.

  1. Sex:
    • Sexual Mastery, Alex Allan
    • Give Women Wild Screaming OrgasmsHot Phone SexAdvanced Sexual Hypnosis, David Shade – in that order.
    • Secrets of Sensual Lovemaking, Tom Leonardi
    • How to Satisfy a Woman Every Time, Nora Hayden
  2. Inner-Game/Masculinity:
    1. Inner Game
      • Way of the Superior Man, David Deida
      • How to Want What You Have, Timothy Miller
      • Awareness, Anthony DeMello
    1. Masculinity
      • No More Mr. Nice Guy, Robert Glover
      • Iron John, Robert Bly
      • Being the Strong Man A Woman Wants, Elliot Katz
    1. Skills
      • When I Say No I Feel Guilty, Manuel J. Smith – great on assertiveness.
      • How to Win Friends & Influence People, Dale Carnegie – great on general social skills.

There are three big areas of life to get together: health, wealth, and relationships. As your success with women increases, here are some products to help you get the two other areas of life under control, too.

  1. Health: p90x, Tony Horton & Beachbody
  2. Wealth:
    • Think & Grow Rich, Napoleon Hill
    • Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kiyosaki

Ultimately, the change will happen not through products, but PRACTICE. Practice is the best “product” you can get. And it’s free.

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